Bulgarian Professor Bozhidar Dimitrov: Macedonia is the country that steals history from Bulgaria, Greece, because it lacks its own19 August 2013 | 17:07 | Sitel TV, Macedonia
Because of the selective publishing of the materials, characteristic for the Macedonian media, as well as because of their tendency to exaggerate the statements on certain issues, FOCUS News Agency publishes the full text of the interview with the Bulgarian historian.
Question: Mr Dimitrov, your evaluation for the superiority of the Bulgarian nation, as well as of the risk of causing any kind of incidents, turned wrong. Two goals in the back of Bulgaria’s net?
Bozhidar Dimitrov: Your question is a brilliant example of the manipulative manner of most of the so-called journalists in Skopje. I have never said that the Bulgarian nation is superior to the Macedonian.
I said that at the moment the Bulgarian national football team is better – in the end, the Skopje-based team lost its last four matches. Right after that I said that it is not too hard to gain a victory over the Bulgarian national team, since its play is hesitant.
In other words – it is a football topic, not a national issue.
Question: Every time you appear in the public area with a statement about Macedonia it incites wild reactions. How do you explain this need to provoke the Macedonian nation and the Macedonian population with such statements?
Bozhidar Dimitrov: I have never made provocations at the “Macedonian” nation, it was rather the politicians, “historians” and journalists to do so. It is real fun to refute their silly theses.
Question: Here we have one of your latest provocations – the one about the Macedonia-Bulgaria international friendly, when you said that the match was a game of the Bulgarian domestic league. Before that you used to say that the Macedonian nation will disappear, grounding your statement on the rate of people possessing Bulgarian passports.
Isn’t it a little bit laughable to deal with Macedonian issues and analyse how the country will suffer the fate of the Maya civilization instead of focusing on the serious problem Bulgaria faces.
From 9 million people some 20 years ago today the Bulgarian nation has shrunk with 2 million. Deducting the one million and a half Turks and Roma citizens it turns out that the Bulgarians are facing a serious problem. Aren’t they?
Bozhidar Dimitrov: The statement about the domestic league was a joke, of course, and it is a pity that you did not get it. You are right that Bulgaria faces serious demographic problem, but we are solving it.
We try to tackle it by stimulating the birth rate and by giving Bulgarian citizenship to people from the diaspora. Only in Macedonia we already have 120,000 Bulgarians – and almost the same number in Moldova, and Ukraine. There are fewer in Serbia, Romania, Turkey, Greece, Albania and Kosovo.
In addition, we do not think that these 2 million Bulgarians, who migrated to the EU, are lost for the nation. They are simply working and living abroad. Some will stay there, while others will return when the economic situation is improved.
There are around 13 million – 14 million Bulgarians all over the world. Some have passports, others – don’t.
Macedonia is the one that should be worried as you are only 1,300,000.
Question: How do you define the Macedonian nation and the Macedonian people?
Bozhidar Dimitrov: It was established at the decision of the Comintern in 1934 on the basis of the Bulgarian nation living in the Kingdom of Yugoslavia and was turned into the life of communist Yugoslavia after 1944.
The Macedonism, on the other hand, is an idea of Serbian politician St. Novakovic from 1889, who used to cynically write: “Every attempt to Serbianise the Bulgarians in Macedonia face with a failure. Thus, let us give them the feeling that they belong to another nation, different from the Bulgarian and the Serbian. This way we will detach them from the Bulgarian nation, while the newly-formed nation – smaller in number and weaker, will be easier to assimilate.”
Question: Mr Dimitrov, Bulgaria is officially pat of the European institutions, NATO and the EU. This means that it is supposed to accept the European values, too. Nowadays, however, Bulgaria has weaker sense of democracy, human rights, right of self-awareness, than during the time of Georgi Dimitrov and the beginning of communism. On the one hand, you call yourself a European country, while on the other - you do not let someone to freely declare which ethnic group one belongs to?
Bozhidar Dimitrov: Saying that during the era of Georgi Dimitrov (1946-1949), the era of the firmest communist dictatorship of Stalinist style in Bulgaria there was stronger democracy, human rights and right of ethnic self-awareness is stupid beyond stupidity. I cannot think of milder expression.
Question: Are there any Macedonians in Bulgaria?
Bozhidar Dimitrov: According to the latest census, there are around 5,000 people.
Question: What is Bulgaria afraid of to refuse to recognise the Macedonian minority? Since 1946 until 1995 it amounts to 180,000 people. How big is it today?
Bozhidar Dimitrov: What kind of an idiot told you that Bulgaria does not recognise the Macedonian minority?
Question: I guess you are aware that the bigger part of your statements about the history of Macedonia contradicts the official world historical positions on this issue. Why do you want to present part of the Macedonian history as Bulgarian?
Bozhidar Dimitrov: My positions on historical issues are completely in line with the positions of the world science. The country that steals history from Greece and Bulgaria, because it does not have its own, is Macedonia.
Question: Here are some quick questions: Alexander the Great – Bulgarian, Greek or Macedonian?
Bozhidar Dimitrov: The right of self-awareness is a fundamental human right in democracy. Alexander the Great, as well as his father Philip II of Macedon, have self-determined themselves as Greeks in their public manifestations. Their political idea is the establishment of a huge Greek state. Any Skopjan fool has the right to give them another identity some 2,400 years after their death. Giving another ethnic identity to deceased people – starting from Samuel of Bulgaria and ending up with Gotse Delchev, is one of the most disgusting crimes of the Macedonism, since these people are dead and they cannot defend themselves. In the civilised world this vicious practice is called marauding. By the way, in the armies, all over the world, the marauding is punished with death.
Question: Samuel of Bulgaria?
Bozhidar Dimitrov: “By that time one powerful man, called Samuel, assumed power among the Bulgarians,” – writes a Serbian manuscript from Duklja from the XII century. Byzantine, Armenian, Latin manuscripts from the time of Samuel of Bulgaria also write that he was a Bulgarian, a Bulgarian king, and that he ruled the Kingdom of Bulgaria.
During excavation works in the Macedonian town of Bitola a big slab stone with an inscription was found and it reads, as follows: “I, Ivan Vladislav autocrat (king) of Bulgaria, born in Bulgaria... built the Botola fortress to rescue the life of the Bulgarians”.
Ivan Vladislav is nephew of Samuel of Bulgaria. With a brief text he explains his ethnic affiliation to the world, as well as that of his uncle.
The slab stone is found at a museum in Botola today.
I have already announced it before, and it is still valid: if anyone finds an ancient text, which says that Samuel is a Macedonian king, I will award him or her with EUR 1,000,000.
Question: Saints Cyril and Methodius? Who has the exclusive right on their merit for the alphabet?
Bozhidar Dimitrov: The Bulgarian state and Boris I of Bulgaria, personally, who provided the entire financial, political and military power of Bulgaria for their deed, when the Byzantine, the Papal State and Great Moravia gave up on it.
Question: The Ohrid archbishopric: Bulgarian, Serbian or Macedonian?
Bozhidar Dimitrov: The official name of the archbishopric established by Basil II, the Bulgar-slayer, in Ohrid in 1018 is “Bulgarian autocephalous archbishopric”. It existed under this name for more than 7 centuries and its heads, even when they were Greeks or Serbs, used to be titled “Bulgarian”. After it was liquidate by the pharaohs in 1874, it was revived as a bishopric of the Bulgarian exarchate.
Question: How do you determine yourself – a descendant of the proto-Bulgarians or of the Macedonians?
Bozhidar Dimitrov: This is a sad question – a clear evidence for huge intellectual insufficiency.
N.B. Since I expect the characteristic of the Macedonian journalism manipulations on the text, my interview will be published in my facebook profile, and probably by the Bulgarian FOCUS News Agency.
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